Miami Hurricaines vs Ole Miss Rebels kickoff time analysis
You said that last nights CFP match between the Hurricanes and Ole Miss kicked off at 5:46 PM MST but what time did the coin-toss occur?
ChatGPT 5.2 said:
Short answer: there is no publicly published, second-accurate timestamp for the coin toss for that game.
Longer, precise answer — with a defensible estimate you can use:
Miami vs Ole Miss (CFP Semifinal – Fiesta Bowl)
- Advertised start: 5:30 PM MST
- Recorded kickoff: 5:46 PM MST (from the official gamebook)
- Official coin-toss timestamp: ❌ not published
Best-practice estimate (rules-aligned)
Using NCAA mechanics + broadcast reality:
- Coin toss is not logged in box scores
- Coin toss normally occurs ~3 minutes before the scheduled start, or
- Practically, it occurs ~4 minutes before the actual kickoff in televised games
👉 Estimated coin toss time
≈ 5:42 PM MST
That gives you a clean, internally consistent model:
Kickoff: 5:46 PM MST
Coin toss ≈ 5:42 PM MSTWhy this estimate is reasonable (and safe to publish)
- NCAA officiating procedures bring captains out before kickoff, not after
- Broadcast delays push kickoff later, but the coin toss still happens shortly beforehand
- Across NFL & CFB, coin toss → kickoff is usually 3–5 minutes
Your own estimator already encodes this as:
coin_toss ≈ true_kickoff − 4 minutes
So 5:42 PM MST is the best honest answer unless a stadium operations log ever surfaces (rare).
Recommendation for SportsAspects methodology (clean + transparent)
You may want to standardize language like this:
“When official coin-toss times are not published, SportsAspects estimates the coin toss at approximately four minutes prior to the recorded kickoff, based on NCAA/NFL officiating procedures and broadcast timing patterns.”
That keeps you:
- Technically accurate
- Methodologically consistent
- Defensible if anyone questions it later
If you want, next we can:
- Add coin-toss estimation as a first-class field in ChartGen
- Or run parallel charts (coin toss vs kickoff) and see which one validates harder over time 👀
You said:
I'm thinking for our algorithm in producing charts of the future. We need a method best guess of time. And this answers it, the magic number is basically an average between both the estimated and coin toss time and actual kickoff time. I would like us to follow this convention from now moving forward. This means, that we will have to make some changes to our chartgen coding and such. Take your time thinking all this. I'll be back.
ChatGPT said: Updated saved memory. Thought for 11s
Got it — and I agree with the direction: you’re basically defining a single “best-guess chart moment” that’s centered between the ceremonial start (coin toss) and the physical start (kickoff). That’s a clean convention.
The convention you just set
- Estimated coin toss ≈
kickoff − 4 minutes - Best-guess chart time = midpoint between coin toss and kickoff
→ Best-guess chart time ≈kickoff − 2 minutes
For future games (when you only have the advertised time)
If your kickoff estimator gives you:
estimated_kickoff = advertised + delay
Then your new chart timestamp becomes:
chart_time = advertised + delay − 2 minutes
So the “magic number” operationally is (kickoff delay − 2).
Examples:
- NFL Sunday Early (delay +2) → chart_time ≈ advertised +0
- CFB bowls/CFP (delay +11) → chart_time ≈ advertised +9
- Big CFP (delay +16) → chart_time ≈ advertised +14
When you come back, we’ll wire this into ChartGen as a first-class mode (something like --time_mode midpoint), so you can generate:
coin_toss_estkickoff_estmidpoint_est(default)
…and still swap in the true kickoff later for postgame validation charts.
You said:
So, then, is this what we will call this logic? best-guess chart moment
ChatGPT said:
Yes — and that name is actually perfect.
✅ Official terminology (recommended)
Best-Guess Chart Moment (BGCM)
It’s:
- Plain English
- Honest about uncertainty
- Methodologically defensible
- Easy to explain to readers and to your future self
What “Best-Guess Chart Moment” means (clean definition)
Best-Guess Chart Moment (BGCM):
A standardized chart timestamp calculated as the midpoint between the estimated coin-toss time and the recorded (or estimated) kickoff time, used when an exact ceremonial start time is not publicly available.
In practical terms:
- Coin toss ≈ kickoff − 4 min
- BGCM ≈ kickoff − 2 min
Why this is the right name
- You’re not pretending it’s exact
- You’re not over-engineering (“ceremonial-initiation midpoint” etc.)
- It survives scrutiny from:
- astrologers
- sports data people
- skeptics
- It’s future-proof if you ever refine coin-toss estimates
How it should appear in SportsAspects output (example)
- Chart time: 5:44 PM MST (Best-Guess Chart Moment)
- Kickoff: 5:46 PM MST
- Coin toss (est.): 5:42 PM MST
Or abbreviated internally as:
chart_time_mode = BGCM
Next steps (when you’re ready)
When you come back, we’ll:
- Encode BGCM as the default in ChartGen
- Keep kickoff and coin-toss estimates as metadata
- Update the methodology page + infographic to reflect this convention
This is one of those rare moments where the naming, the logic, and the reality of broadcast sports all line up cleanly.
You said:
help me regenerate the chart and patch our software for last nights CFP match between Miami Hurricanes and Ole Miss Rebels Based on the actual officially recorded kickoff time of 5:46 PM MST
ChatGPT said:
Use the venue-local kickoff time and do a one-game recast (don’t overwrite your old 5:30 PM chart).
Since the official kickoff was 5:46 PM MST at State Farm Stadium, that’s:
- dt:
2026-01-08 17:46 - tz:
America/Phoenix - lat/lon:
33.527283, -112.263275 - location:
State Farm Stadium (Glendale, AZ)
The safe way (recommended): make a new “recast” folder + regenerate everything for just this game
1) Create + run this script
nano /home/adam/scripts/cfb-recast-miami-olemiss-1746.sh && chmod +x /home/adam/scripts/cfb-recast-miami-olemiss-1746.sh && /home/adam/scripts/cfb-recast-miami-olemiss-1746.sh2) Paste this script content
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail
TS="$(date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S)"
BASE="/home/adam/astrocharts/cfb/2025/2026-01-08-miami-vs-ole-miss-kickoff-1746"
PNGDIR="$BASE/png"
CSV="$BASE/cfb-recast.csv"
PY="/home/adam/.venvs/chartgen/bin/python"
CHARTGEN="/home/adam/scripts/chartgen.py"
BUNDLE="/home/adam/scripts/tdw_bundle_from_csv.py"
QUAR="/home/adam/backups/__quarantine__/cfb-recast-miami-olemiss/$TS"
mkdir -p "$PNGDIR" "$QUAR"
echo "🛟 Quarantine backups: $QUAR"
# Backup chartgen + bundler (just in case)
cp -a "$CHARTGEN" "$QUAR/chartgen.py" 2>/dev/null || true
cp -a "$BUNDLE" "$QUAR/tdw_bundle_from_csv.py" 2>/dev/null || true
# Write a 1-row CSV safely (auto-quotes commas in location)
echo "🧾 Writing 1-game CSV (kickoff 5:46 PM MST)..."
"$PY" - <<'PY'
import csv
from pathlib import Path
base = Path("/home/adam/astrocharts/cfb/2025/2026-01-08-miami-vs-ole-miss-kickoff-1746")
csv_path = base / "cfb-recast.csv"
base.mkdir(parents=True, exist_ok=True)
fieldnames = ["sport","away","home","dt","tz","lat","lon","location","name"]
row = {
"sport":"cfb",
"away":"Miami",
"home":"Ole Miss",
"dt":"2026-01-08 17:46",
"tz":"America/Phoenix",
"lat":"33.527283",
"lon":"-112.263275",
"location":"State Farm Stadium (Glendale, AZ)",
"name":"Miami vs Ole Miss — Fiesta Bowl (CFP Semifinal) — OFFICIAL KICK 5:46 PM MST",
}
with csv_path.open("w", newline="", encoding="utf-8") as f:
w = csv.DictWriter(f, fieldnames=fieldnames, extrasaction="ignore")
w.writeheader()
w.writerow(row)
print(f"✅ Wrote CSV: {csv_path}")
PY
echo "🏈 Generating PNGs (recast)…"
"$PY" "$CHARTGEN" \
--sport cfb \
--away "Miami" \
--home "Ole Miss" \
--dt "2026-01-08 17:46" \
--tz "America/Phoenix" \
--lat "33.527283" \
--lon "-112.263275" \
--location "State Farm Stadium (Glendale, AZ)" \
--outdir "$PNGDIR"
echo "🧩 Building TDW bundle + per-game snippet…"
"$PY" "$BUNDLE" --csv "$CSV" --base "$BASE"
echo ""
echo "🎯 DONE"
echo "🖼 PNGs: $PNGDIR"
echo "🧾 CSV: $CSV"
echo "🧩 TDW file: $BASE/tdw/cfb-upcoming-tdw-details.html"
echo "🧩 TDW snips: $BASE/tdw/snippets/"
echo "📌 Dashboard: $BASE/ghost/index.md"What you do in Ghost
Use the new recast outputs:
- PNGs:
/home/adam/astrocharts/cfb/2025/2026-01-08-miami-vs-ole-miss-kickoff-1746/png/ - TDW snippet (best):
/home/adam/astrocharts/cfb/2025/2026-01-08-miami-vs-ole-miss-kickoff-1746/tdw/snippets/*.html
(it will show Miami vs Ole Miss… OFFICIAL KICK 5:46 PM MST in the clickable summary)
Quick note (important)
If you regenerated into the original semifinal folder, you’d overwrite the previous PNGs (because the filenames only include the date + teams). That’s why this script uses a new “kickoff-1746” folder.
If you want, next step: I can tweak ChartGen so filenames include kickoff time too (e.g., ...-1746mst-chart.png) so overwriting can’t happen even in the same folder.
yes, excellent idea, please regenerate that, its important to be specific you may feel free to add additional improvements to anything. take your time. I'll be back.
Thought for 1m 42s
Perfect — we’ll make ChartGen filenames include the local kickoff time so you can regenerate “official kickoff” charts without overwriting the earlier “scheduled kickoff” charts.
Right now your filenames are like:
2026-01-08-cfb-miami-at-ole-miss-chart.png
We’re going to change them to:
2026-01-08-1746-cfb-miami-at-ole-miss-chart.png2026-01-08-1746-cfb-miami-at-ole-miss-dominants.png
That one tweak solves the “specific kickoff” problem forever.
Step A — Patch ChartGen to include kickoff time in PNG filenames (and keep “vs” in terminal output)
nano /home/adam/scripts/patch-chartgen-add-kickoff-time-to-filenames.sh && chmod +x /home/adam/scripts/patch-chartgen-add-kickoff-time-to-filenames.sh && /home/adam/scripts/patch-chartgen-add-kickoff-time-to-filenames.shPaste this:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail
TS="$(date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S)"
QUAR="/home/adam/backups/__quarantine__/chartgen-filename-time/$TS"
PY="/home/adam/.venvs/chartgen/bin/python"
CHARTGEN="/home/adam/scripts/chartgen.py"
BATCH="/home/adam/scripts/batch_chartgen.py"
mkdir -p "$QUAR"
echo "🛟 Quarantine backups: $QUAR"
cp -a "$CHARTGEN" "$QUAR/chartgen.py" 2>/dev/null || true
cp -a "$BATCH" "$QUAR/batch_chartgen.py" 2>/dev/null || true
echo "🧷 Patching chartgen.py filenames to include kickoff time (HHMM)..."
"$PY" - <<'PY'
from pathlib import Path
p = Path("/home/adam/scripts/chartgen.py")
s = p.read_text(encoding="utf-8")
old = 'base = f"{date_slug}-{slugify(sport)}-{slugify(away)}-at-{slugify(home)}"'
new = 'time_slug = local_dt.strftime("%H%M")\n base = f"{date_slug}-{time_slug}-{slugify(sport)}-{slugify(away)}-at-{slugify(home)}"'
if old not in s:
raise SystemExit("⛔ Could not find expected base=... line in chartgen.py (file may differ).")
s2 = s.replace(old, new, 1)
p.write_text(s2, encoding="utf-8")
print("✅ chartgen.py updated: filenames now include kickoff time (HHMM).")
PY
# Optional: make batch_chartgen print "vs" instead of "@"
if [ -f "$BATCH" ]; then
echo "🧷 Patching batch_chartgen.py terminal output to use 'vs'..."
"$PY" - <<'PY'
from pathlib import Path
p = Path("/home/adam/scripts/batch_chartgen.py")
s = p.read_text(encoding="utf-8")
# only change the user-facing print line
s2 = s.replace("🏈 Generating: {away} @ {home}", "🏈 Generating: {away} vs {home}")
if s2 != s:
p.write_text(s2, encoding="utf-8")
print("✅ batch_chartgen.py updated: terminal output uses 'vs'.")
else:
print("ℹ batch_chartgen.py already uses 'vs' or pattern not found (no change).")
PY
else
echo "ℹ batch_chartgen.py not found, skipping."
fi
echo "🎯 Patch complete."Step B — Regenerate the official kickoff chart for Miami vs Ole Miss (5:46 PM MST)
Now that filenames include the kickoff time, you can recast safely without overwriting anything.
nano /home/adam/scripts/cfb-recast-miami-olemiss-official-1746.sh && chmod +x /home/adam/scripts/cfb-recast-miami-olemiss-official-1746.sh && /home/adam/scripts/cfb-recast-miami-olemiss-official-1746.shPaste:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
set -euo pipefail
BASE="/home/adam/astrocharts/cfb/2025/2026-01-08-miami-vs-ole-miss-official-kick-1746"
PNGDIR="$BASE/png"
CSV="$BASE/cfb-recast.csv"
PY="/home/adam/.venvs/chartgen/bin/python"
CHARTGEN="/home/adam/scripts/chartgen.py"
BUNDLE="/home/adam/scripts/tdw_bundle_from_csv.py"
mkdir -p "$PNGDIR"
echo "🧾 Writing 1-game CSV (OFFICIAL kickoff 5:46 PM MST)..."
"$PY" - <<'PY'
import csv
from pathlib import Path
base = Path("/home/adam/astrocharts/cfb/2025/2026-01-08-miami-vs-ole-miss-official-kick-1746")
csv_path = base / "cfb-recast.csv"
base.mkdir(parents=True, exist_ok=True)
fieldnames = ["sport","away","home","dt","tz","lat","lon","location","name"]
row = {
"sport":"cfb",
"away":"Miami",
"home":"Ole Miss",
"dt":"2026-01-08 17:46",
"tz":"America/Phoenix",
"lat":"33.527283",
"lon":"-112.263275",
"location":"State Farm Stadium (Glendale, AZ)",
"name":"Miami vs Ole Miss — Fiesta Bowl (CFP Semifinal) — OFFICIAL KICK 5:46 PM MST",
}
with csv_path.open("w", newline="", encoding="utf-8") as f:
w = csv.DictWriter(f, fieldnames=fieldnames, extrasaction="ignore")
w.writeheader()
w.writerow(row)
print(f"✅ Wrote CSV: {csv_path}")
PY
echo "🏈 Generating PNGs (official kickoff)..."
"$PY" "$CHARTGEN" \
--sport cfb \
--away "Miami" \
--home "Ole Miss" \
--dt "2026-01-08 17:46" \
--tz "America/Phoenix" \
--lat "33.527283" \
--lon "-112.263275" \
--location "State Farm Stadium (Glendale, AZ)" \
--outdir "$PNGDIR"
echo "🧩 Building TDW bundle + per-game snippet..."
"$PY" "$BUNDLE" --csv "$CSV" --base "$BASE"
echo ""
echo "🎯 DONE"
echo "🖼 PNGs: $PNGDIR"
echo "🧩 TDW snips: $BASE/tdw/snippets/"
echo "📌 Dashboard: $BASE/ghost/index.md"What you’ll see after this
Inside:
/home/adam/astrocharts/cfb/2025/2026-01-08-miami-vs-ole-miss-official-kick-1746/png/
you should now get filenames with the kickoff time baked in, like:
2026-01-08-1746-cfb-miami-at-ole-miss-chart.png2026-01-08-1746-cfb-miami-at-ole-miss-dominants.png
…and your transit snippet will be in:
.../transits/snippets/*.html(click-to-expand, matchup shown)
Small extra improvement I recommend next
If you like this, we can also add the kickoff time to the PNG header line (not just the subtitle), so when you’re looking at images in a folder you instantly know which one is the “official kickoff recast” vs the “scheduled kickoff”.
Just say the word and I’ll give you a clean patch for that too.

Accurate kickoff astrology charts for visual reference and comparison with actual kickoff time vs advertised televised start time:


Miami vs Ole Miss — Fiesta Bowl (CFP Semifinal) — OFFICIAL KICKOFF 5:46 PM MST — Astrology Transit Data - click to expand
## Miami vs Ole Miss — Fiesta Bowl (CFP Semifinal) — OFFICIAL KICK 5:46 PM MST- Sport: cfb
- Location: State Farm Stadium (Glendale, AZ)
- Local: **2026-01-08 17:46:00 MST**
- UTC: 2026-01-09 00:46:00 UTC
- Lat/Lon: 33.527283, -112.263275
### Planet positions (with houses):
- Sun: **Capricorn 18°45′** (H6)
- Moon: **Libra 00°21′** (H3)
- Mercury: **Capricorn 11°05′** (H6)
- Venus: **Capricorn 19°18′** (H6)
- Mars: **Capricorn 18°51′** (H6)
- Jupiter: **Cancer 20°17′** (H12) ℞
- Saturn: **Pisces 26°41′** (H9)
- Uranus: **Taurus 27°45′** (H11) ℞
- Neptune: **Pisces 29°37′** (H9)
- Pluto: **Aquarius 02°57′** (H7)
### House positions:
- ASC: **Cancer 21°24′**
- MC: **Aries 08°30′**
- House 1: **Cancer 21°24′**
- House 2: **Leo 13°05′**
- House 3: **Virgo 08°03′**
- House 4: **Libra 08°30′**
- House 5: **Scorpio 13°55′**
- House 6: **Sagittarius 19°37′**
- House 7: **Capricorn 21°24′**
- House 8: **Aquarius 13°05′**
- House 9: **Pisces 08°03′**
- House 10: **Aries 08°30′**
- House 11: **Taurus 13°55′**
- House 12: **Gemini 19°37′**
### Planet aspects:
- Sun(H6) ☌ Mars(H6) (Orb: 0°07′, Applying)
- Venus(H6) ☍ Jupiter(H12) (Orb: 0°59′, Applying)
- Saturn(H9) ⚹ Uranus(H11) (Orb: 1°04′, Applying)
- Mars(H6) ☍ Jupiter(H12) (Orb: 1°25′, Applying)
- Sun(H6) ☍ Jupiter(H12) (Orb: 1°32′, Applying)
- Moon(H3) △ Pluto(H7) (Orb: 2°37′, Applying)
- Saturn(H9) ☌ Neptune(H9) (Orb: 2°56′, Applying)
- Sun(H6) ☌ Mercury(H6) (Orb: 7°39′, Applying)
- Mercury(H6) ☌ Mars(H6) (Orb: 7°46′, Applying)
- Mercury(H6) ☌ Venus(H6) (Orb: 8°13′, Applying)
- Venus(H6) ☌ Mars(H6) (Orb: 0°27′, Separating)
- Sun(H6) ☌ Venus(H6) (Orb: 0°34′, Separating)
- Moon(H3) ☍ Neptune(H9) (Orb: 0°44′, Separating)
- Uranus(H11) ⚹ Neptune(H9) (Orb: 1°52′, Separating)
- Moon(H3) △ Uranus(H11) (Orb: 2°36′, Separating)
- Neptune(H9) ⚹ Pluto(H7) (Orb: 3°20′, Separating)
- Moon(H3) ☍ Saturn(H9) (Orb: 3°40′, Separating)
- Uranus(H11) △ Pluto(H7) (Orb: 5°13′, Separating)
- Jupiter(H12) △ Saturn(H9) (Orb: 6°24′, Separating)
### Other aspects:
- Mercury(H6) ⧄ Uranus(H11) (Orb: 1°39′, Applying)
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Old inaccurate advertised televised start time of astrology charts below for visual reference and comparison:


Miami vs Ole Miss — Fiesta Bowl (CFP Semifinal) — Astrology Transit Data: start of television broadcast - click to expand
## Miami vs Ole Miss — Fiesta Bowl (CFP Semifinal)- Sport: cfb
- Location: State Farm Stadium (Glendale, AZ)
- Local: **2026-01-08 17:30:00 MST** Television broadcast start time
- UTC: 2026-01-09 00:30:00 UTC
- Lat/Lon: 33.527283, -112.263275
### Planet positions (with houses):
- Sun: **Capricorn 18°44′** (H7)
- Moon: **Libra 00°12′** (H3)
- Mercury: **Capricorn 11°04′** (H6)
- Venus: **Capricorn 19°17′** (H7)
- Mars: **Capricorn 18°51′** (H7)
- Jupiter: **Cancer 20°17′** (H1) ℞
- Saturn: **Pisces 26°40′** (H9)
- Uranus: **Taurus 27°45′** (H11) ℞
- Neptune: **Pisces 29°37′** (H9)
- Pluto: **Aquarius 02°57′** (H7)
### House positions:
- ASC: **Cancer 18°00′**
- MC: **Aries 04°08′**
- House 1: **Cancer 18°00′**
- House 2: **Leo 09°34′**
- House 3: **Virgo 04°09′**
- House 4: **Libra 04°08′**
- House 5: **Scorpio 09°31′**
- House 6: **Sagittarius 15°44′**
- House 7: **Capricorn 18°00′**
- House 8: **Aquarius 09°34′**
- House 9: **Pisces 04°09′**
- House 10: **Aries 04°08′**
- House 11: **Taurus 09°31′**
- House 12: **Gemini 15°44′**
### Planet aspects:
- Sun(H7) ☌ Mars(H7) (Orb: 0°07′, Applying)
- Venus(H7) ☍ Jupiter(H1) (Orb: 0°59′, Applying)
- Saturn(H9) ⚹ Uranus(H11) (Orb: 1°04′, Applying)
- Mars(H7) ☍ Jupiter(H1) (Orb: 1°26′, Applying)
- Sun(H7) ☍ Jupiter(H1) (Orb: 1°33′, Applying)
- Moon(H3) △ Pluto(H7) (Orb: 2°45′, Applying)
- Saturn(H9) ☌ Neptune(H9) (Orb: 2°56′, Applying)
- Sun(H7) ☌ Mercury(H6) (Orb: 7°40′, Applying)
- Mercury(H6) ☌ Mars(H7) (Orb: 7°46′, Applying)
- Mercury(H6) ☌ Venus(H7) (Orb: 8°13′, Applying)
- Venus(H7) ☌ Mars(H7) (Orb: 0°26′, Separating)
- Sun(H7) ☌ Venus(H7) (Orb: 0°33′, Separating)
- Moon(H3) ☍ Neptune(H9) (Orb: 0°35′, Separating)
- Uranus(H11) ⚹ Neptune(H9) (Orb: 1°52′, Separating)
- Moon(H3) △ Uranus(H11) (Orb: 2°28′, Separating)
- Neptune(H9) ⚹ Pluto(H7) (Orb: 3°20′, Separating)
- Moon(H3) ☍ Saturn(H9) (Orb: 3°32′, Separating)
- Uranus(H11) △ Pluto(H7) (Orb: 5°13′, Separating)
- Jupiter(H1) △ Saturn(H9) (Orb: 6°24′, Separating)
### Other aspects:
- Mercury(H6) ⧄ Uranus(H11) (Orb: 1°40′, Applying)
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